Adsense vs YPN
September 9, 2005
What is the difference about YPN and Adsense, Since is too early to tell which one is better we recollected some data about what people thinks. (must of them Beta testers on YPN):
Google: More Intelligent Targeting?
By ElGuapo WebmasterWorld.com
For a couple of weeks now, I’ve been running a test on which will perform better on my site, Adsense or YPN. Adsense is in my flagship site, while YPN is in my smaller site. But to make the two comparable, I decided to run both YPN and Adsense on the homepage of my main site.
Using phpadsnew, I set the two to have equal weights so at the end of the day they have equal pageviews. They use the same leaderboard format and sports the exact color scheme. Both seemingly show targeted ads, the main difference though is that G tends to show more “mom and pop ads” while YPN shows more ads from leading brand names.
While my test time period is not too long (a couple of weeks), the same pattern emerges day in and day out: I get significantly more CTR from Google at the rate of 10:1 compared to YPN. So for example, my CTR with G is 10% while my CTR with YPN is only 1% (my Google CTR on my homepage always exceeds double digit). So at the end of the day, even if YPN pays more per click (about $1 more than what G averages per click), at the end of the day, I get more revenues from G.
From this, I can only surmise that G has better targeting altogether, even if the two shows targeted ads. It seems G has the capability to show ads that are targeted to the page AND ads that are likely to get clicks. Whereas Y only stops at showing targeted ads.
Do you guys think G uses historical performance of the site as to which ads get more clicks? I suppose the fact that my site has been with Adsense since June 2003 may have something to do with it, that they already know what works on my site.
By Jensar:
I have been one of the small handful of publishers beta testing the YPN, and it was worth the wait
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YPN is very similar to AdSense in a lot of ways, but it has some quirks to work out during the beta period. It has ten ad unit sizes (same as AdSense) and similar reporting features in the control panel, including downloadable reports.
You can also block advertisers, customize channels for tracking (although only 50 of them), and create ad unit styles for display.
Ad units look similar to AdSense, although the text is larger, and hence shows fewer ads. For example, the large rectangle only shows three ads with YPN instead of four.
A couple cool features - you can transfer your earnings to your Yahoo Search Marketing account.
The home page of the control panel features your total daily earnings, and it tells you what time your earning stats were last updated, which is great for stat junkies.
Now, the question everyone wants to know. YPN is open for beta testing by invite only. But you can apply to become a YPN beta tester and hopefully be one of the ones invited:
If you’re interested in being considered for the Yahoo! Publisher Network beta program, please enter your information below. Participants of the program must be a resident of the U.S., with valid U.S. Social Security number or Tax ID.
I would assume they plan to open it to those who don’t meet the above criteria when it launches out of beta by the end of this year.
higher revenue for YPN but lower clickthrough
I am testing it in one of my smaller sites as well as in the homepage of my main site. In my main site’s homepage, I have it alternate with adsense using the same weights so they have an even number of impressions at the end of the day. For the same prime spot (this is a leaderboard and both uses the same exact color scheme), G gives me double digit CTR but Yahoo gets me only a tenth of my adsense CTR.
While YPN may have a higher cost per click G’s ads are more suited and attractive to my users. YPN ’s ads are also targeted, and in fact the advertisers are bigger and more sophisticated than adwords advertisers, but my users respond more to adsense than ypn.
In my web is curently 100% better (Yahoo!)
The click value is above Adsense, the targeting is a little off, so the clicks are less. Seems to be balancing out for me.
Couldn’t get back in to change my last post.
When testing the Yahoo Publisher program I changed over about 1/2 of my adsense ads for the one site. Since yesterdays new Adwords change clicks for this site went to .01 ( other sites actually went up in value) I will change over the rest of my ads to Yahoo for this site to see what happens.
Ohhh I honestly love this game :)!
It’ll be expected that YPN would do better comparing to AdSense for the low paying-eCPC sites (eCPC less than $0.05 in AdSense system). So be carefull in comparison.
I’m testing YPN on one site and still have Adsense up on my other sites. YPN paid better as someone suggested earlier the first few days. After that I took notice that they had spread one or two ads in the ad spaces that originally had 3/4 ads. My ecpm and click through ratio both dropped in half. Same thing happened when Adsense began filling an ad block with just one or two ads. This is the reason I wanted to try YPN. As a publisher, I’d like to be able to opt out just as I have an option to block a url that doesn’t fit my site. I’m hoping that both YPN and Adsense read this thread and perhaps make that an option. I am thankful to have the revenue and not here to gripe but to make an observation
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October 16th, 2005 at 6:33 pm
The site helped me a lot
thanks
March 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
YPN seems to be nice one comparatively to Adsense
April 21st, 2006 at 9:03 am
Excellent topic and you covered it nicely. Adsense is indeed a huge player in the online advertising world and I believe any tips and guides are appreciated. Of course, while millions of publishers are running Adsense, only a handful are making serious money off it. As far as I’m concerned, the best way to make money with Adsense is to develop a website on a niche topic that should also be something you are interested in. Hobby-related sites have the best chances of keeping you, as their webmaster, happy and involved, and this will soon show in the number of visitors and the amounts of money you make.
Another vital thing to consider is ad style and placement. I prefer to use a similar structure for all my websites – one that was proven to work. I will share this with you as I believe in reciprocal help through free advice – I also learned A LOT from browsing blogs such as this and other webmaster resources on Adsense. Ok, so getting back to ad placement: I love the idea of placing a 120×90 or 160×90 adlink box on the left side menu of my sites, in the top left corner, just below the banner. Have a look at my website, Web2earn.com and look at the area below the graphic saying “Online money” – it will house a nice 160×90 adlinks box soon after my site receives enough traffic.
The second good spot to place a 250×250 or 300×250 ad box is in the article text. Loose the border and make the background of the ads the same as your web background (same is true for the adlink placement mentioned above. The final touch comes with a final ad placed at the end of each araticle. Consider the article a path that leads to the final conclusion – exactly where the ads are. You can also place a small graphic image to the left of the ads, so that they are more attractive from a visual point of view.
By using such an ad placement most of my sites get CTRs of 10%-15% all the time
Give it a try and let me know if this sort of ad placement worked in your particular cases – I am also doing a study on this which I will eventually publish on web2earn.com
Best regards,
Mihai